Is there any way to drop out of the game of life, where it is all about having power over women for sex
IT seems like in 2010 America the only point of life is to gain money, power and status, and to use that position to force women into sex. And sexual pleasure is the be-all end all of life.
I used to rant against the immorality of the New Babylon, in my Cotton Mather fire and brimstone days. But it seems pointless now. Live and let die, I guess.
It just seems like where money and sex are the judgments of a man’s worth, life at least for me is not worth living. I long for nothingness But I admit that it is cowardice that prevents me from seeking freedom from the curse of being. I’m not going to judge the lives of others. But I just can’t live that life.
South Park: Sexual Healing gave a pretty good synopsis of Roissyism. Men are driven to be the alpha chimpanzees. They will seek power, fame, wealth, for the sake of sexual domination.
Ah the cruel nature of existence. Who would want to live in a world like that? Everyone, I guess. It seems I stand completely and entirely alone. Utterly, utterly alone. So why bother using words? Words are by definition social. How can I complain that humanity is inhumane?
The best summary of Roissyism is:
"Roissy is in a sense more reactionary than you are. Being reactionary means understanding and appreciating hierarchy, order, roles, duty, etc. And one of his main points is that men and women are, yes, fundamentally different. Your talk of abstract "human abilities" and "human personalities" smacks of extreme egalitarianism that doesn’t take into fundamental differences between men and women, something a reactionary would consider seriously.
And do you even know what game is? Are you that naive? Or have you never flirted with a girl, or never playfully teased a girl? Game is not mutually exclusive with things like "honor, judgment, thought, affection, sacrifice, or commitment." It’s hilarious that you somehow find game and what Roissy advocates as entailing a "constant state of war." I suppose when boys in school playfully tease and make fun of the girls they like (girls who in turn actually enjoy the attention and teasing, despite coquettishly protesting) they are really laying siege against woman in that eternal war between the sexes.
And I would like to remind you that, um, men and women reproduce sexually, and this biological fact entails competition and all the rest. It seems that the only form of reproduction that would satisfy your ideal conception revealed in this quote would be asexual."
What a dark and horrible world I’m sentenced to. I really could take up Gnosticism, and believe that some horrible Satan created this world. More out of stupidity than ill intent. While God’s back was turned. And that the material world is a curse to be shunned. But why make it a lesser God? Why not just admit that God is cruel and evil. He should have just been content to be Aristotlean, forever contemplating just how awesome, wonderful and perfect he was. By definition when only God existed the universe was perfect, but with wretched matter in motion, imperfection began. Why would a good God destroy perfection to create imperfection? That is the greatest evil of God, Creation! It is precisely as Creator that we worship him, and yet it is in that he is most evil. Not that anyone cares anymore. Our only religion is Ceremonial Deism, so who am I even complaining to? I’m an atheist, but I’m perhaps the last man in America to take religion seriously.
Life is a comedy to those who think, and a tragedy to those who feel. Most true. Man’s asinine inanity, would be very hilarious, to an impartial observer. Why do I care? I’ve cut myself off from humanity for nearly a year. Man is just a abstract concept to me now. Xs and Ys. Variables and coefficients. Why do I care about X and Y?
Well suppose I didn’t care? That solves nothing. To survive I still have to live among man. That I can no longer do. Far too disgusted. Even the stench disgusts me.
Aren’t you rejecting the traditions of classical humanism and Enlightenment rationalism, in favor of fanatical superstition? You have no real ground for condemning man’s choice. Other than gut feeling, your inner light that tells you so.
And is society really so monistic? Is working as Dilbert in some vast grey bureaucracy really a wild orgy?
But whats the point? Why should I work for the sake of biological survival? What does the mind, will, soul, spirit, Geist, owe the body? Ah my poor physical body, what a cruel master you were given. A different mind could have put this body to far better use. But this mind just doesn’t give a damn. Its unwilling to life a finger to preserve ye.
Well then this debate is just a elaborate display of your indecision and cowardice.
You complain that society is too fun, but work not fun enough. Because society is too fun, you refuse to endure the unfun of work.
Everything you complain about is biological. The drive for sex, food, and security. The animalistic nature of man. But isn’t the satisfaction of human needs, precisely the gratifying of animal needs?
If you hate all life and existence, then who can help you?
America is the land of the Anabaptists, Rappites, Amish, Hutterites, Mennonites, Shakers, Baptists, Puritans, Pilgrims, Congregationalists. They were ranters and holy rollers, railing against the corruption of the material world. Abandoning the world of biology. It is upon this rock that America was built. The city upon a hill. How many little towns are there scattered across America, founded by Puritan fanatics? How many Frat Us out there founded by fire and brimstone? America, the last great hope. YOU founded America. This was the New Land. In which you anti-biologists had your chance to escape from decadence and domination.
Puritanism is too powerful for its own good. It is capital-intensive investment that must ultimately out-compete all competitors. Voltaire documented it among the Quakers:
"I am not able to guess what fate Quakerism may have in America, but I perceive it dwindles away daily in England. In all countries where liberty of conscience is allowed, the established religion will at last swallow up all the rest. Quakers are disqualified from being members of Parliament; nor can they enjoy any post or preferment, because an oath must always be taken on these occasions, and they never swear. They are therefore reduced to the necessity of subsisting upon traffic. Their children, whom the industry of their parents has enriched, are desirous of enjoying honours, of wearing buttons and ruffles; and quite ashamed of being called Quakers they become converts to the Church of England, merely to be in the fashion."
Because the Quakers are the most industrious, hardest workers, they become the most ruthless and successful business men. For a few generations frugality in the face of vast wealth may be maintained, but in the end the story of the Quakers is that of America at large.
If you do not want to be corrupted, do not be Puritanical to begin with. Does the Catholic road triumph? A moderate hedonism for the masses, and for those few zealous fanatics, monasteries to safely dispose of them. But you worldly ascetics must seek earthly power. If you fail, you will be great martyrs and the stuff of dreams. But ah if you succeed. The you will be cursed with riches. Invest and produce. That is the mantra of the Puritan. You consume nothing and leave it all to your posterity. Generous in wealth, but ah how selfish in virtue you are to your posterity. You leave them mountains of God and an ocean of sin.
You had your chance, and your chance was America. Where else could you have Shakers? A whole community in celibacy, rid of sex. There was never a more anti-sexual nation founded. And look at what greatness anti-sexualism produced. The mightiest empire, the world has yet seen. You fled Rome, only to build Babylon. Perhaps the Pilgrims were right to be fearful on the dark forests they tread. This untamed dark continent. They believed they had entered Satan’s Empire. Perhaps they were right. But how foolish to believe that Jerusalem could be built within its borders. There how wrong they were.
What good is it? You could hardly create a doctrine more beautiful than that of the Anabaptists. And this is their continent. This is the Republic, THEY founded. Would you do any better? What if you could gather a bunch of Perfecti to settle some distant Galaxy? Would you do any better?
This world just wasn’t made for man. It is not our home. All the feeble projects of mice and men, will always be dashed to pieces. How much smarter this New America is than me. They know they are chimpanzees and enjoy it. What fools their forefathers were. What a fool, I am.
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